tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7606437913530509029.post4000132224167495466..comments2013-04-04T22:44:58.482-07:00Comments on Jorj95: Big Event Day 2jorj95http://www.blogger.com/profile/11672820334063652189noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7606437913530509029.post-7179473032894240362011-03-08T20:44:29.068-07:002011-03-08T20:44:29.068-07:00I see where the problem is. If the caller loses, h...I see where the problem is. If the caller loses, he lost 2 buyins instead of 1. Originally I thought he only lost what he pays. (1 buyin)<br /><br />But the real equity he has is 2 buyins after he reaches this point. <br /><br />thanks Gorege.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7606437913530509029.post-22950818978808414812011-03-08T19:18:20.545-07:002011-03-08T19:18:20.545-07:00or even think of the payout as 3,3,0, then it will...or even think of the payout as 3,3,0, then it will be obvious that everyone's ev is 2 if all stacks are even 3 handedjorj95https://www.blogger.com/profile/11672820334063652189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7606437913530509029.post-10739520790491050662011-03-08T19:16:49.675-07:002011-03-08T19:16:49.675-07:00i'm sorry i'm actually somewhat confused b...i'm sorry i'm actually somewhat confused by your post.<br /><br />it might help to think of the payout structure as 1,1,0 instead of 0.5,0.5,0. then it might be more obvious that everyone has 67% ev to start the hand (before posting blinds). So in reality you're risking 2 buyins to win 1 buyin (excluding rake), since each of the 3 remaining players has an equity of 2 buyins before the hand starts, since there were 6 total buyins to start with.<br /><br />hope this helps.jorj95https://www.blogger.com/profile/11672820334063652189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7606437913530509029.post-82785145621124173422011-03-08T12:05:02.730-07:002011-03-08T12:05:02.730-07:00alright, i'll post my question here. i hope it...alright, i'll post my question here. i hope it's not too tedious to read....<br /><br />Hello Gorge,<br /><br />First of all, congratulations to the baby! <br /><br />I’ve been playing hyperturbo satellites on pokerstars lately. And there were some spots I am not quite sure with. Since you are the expert in this game, I’m wondering if you could give some input. <br /><br />One of the spots I wasn’t sure is on the bubble, when there are 3 players left. Stars changed the structure this year so the payout structure is essentially 0.5,0.5,0. Assuming that each player has 1000 chips, blinds are 50/100/20. According to ICM Nash calculator, the SB can push any two cards into BB. And accordingly, BB should call with 12.5% hands (66+ A7s+ A9o+ KTs+ KQo).<br />Please let me explain my understanding. With 1000 chips each. Everyone has 33.3% EV. When the SB pushes and BB calls, BB is risking 33.3% EV to win 50%. (if he calls and lost, he lost his 33%; if he calls and win, the game is over and he get 50%, the Button gets 50%-33.3%=16.7% for free.) So BB needs 0.333/0.5=66.7% winning chance to break even. Top 12.5% hands has about 67% winning chance against SB’s range (ATC) and I think that’s why ICM Nash calculator suggests this range. <br /><br />My question is, however, does BB need to be this tight? I mean, if BB calls and lost, he lost his buyin; if he calls and wins, the game’s over and he doubles (1.94 times his buyin to be exact) his buyin. So he’s risking 1 buyin to win 1.94 buyins, he needs 1/1.94=51.5% winning chance to break even. This is very different from what ICM says (66.7%). <br /><br />So now I have no idea which calculation I should trust. Could you give me some input on this? I know it may be a little abrupt to ask you but you’re the best hyperturbo player I know so….<br />Thank you very muchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7606437913530509029.post-37622797080847655932011-03-08T11:23:09.503-07:002011-03-08T11:23:09.503-07:00haha drunk blogging, hope you all enjoyed :)haha drunk blogging, hope you all enjoyed :)jorj95https://www.blogger.com/profile/11672820334063652189noreply@blogger.com